Brushstrokes,

I volunteer my site for replacement for free one month memberships to those who joined Spanking Couple and were unable to get their full month’s worth. I was in a bad way last November when my card processing bank closed me down. I know what trouble is like and I know how hard things are for Veronica and Dr. D right now. Anything I can do to help, it is my pleasure to do so.

Chelsea

it’s very kind of you to make that offer to your readers Brushstrokes but you can count Northern Spanking in for that for free offer too. Veronica and Dr D have been so lovely over the period that we have dealt with them and are such genuine people dedicated to producing quality stuff. As Chelsea indicates, it could easily happen to anyone.

Lucy McLean

Anyone know what billing company they used?
I know from past experience that we MUST comply with billing agents requirements (which can be a right pain) and then they take a nice fat cut of our membership fees too for processing it. That’s life though…
Many people who sign up forget these issues that websites have.
Everyone slates “adult websites” etc yet they are happy to take our coin!
Good luck to the Spanking Couple – I was about to advise people take a look at their site as I liked their stuff on my blog!
Hope they sort out their issues soon!

SpankingBlogg Chief.

Veronica posted on myspankingforum.com that she was outed to her ex-husband and he is threatening to go to CPS to have her child taken away from her. That is why she is removing the sites.

http://www.myspankingforum.com/showthread.php?t=936

They use(d) ccBill that has a number of spanking related sites in their portfolio.

In light of the visceral nature of that site being made to close by a foul-minded and despicable person who used a mother’s love of her child to achieve their aims, I to will offer up to 5 free one month single memberships to http://www.soundpunishment.com to those nominated by Brushstrokes who I am sure will check the membership details of those claiming against his affiliated sales list.

Threated with removal of your child for enjoying spanking between consenting adults.

That is just wrong. I wish Veronica Good luck with whatever she decides to do.

Ironically, I just subscribed three days ago.

The member content still appears to exist, since I bookmarked a link directly to it.

Brushmarks, you can only review the sites and comment on their track records. I don’t think you can be responsible for what happens to them after you review them.

While I find your recommendations valuable, and they have some weight on if I decide to subscribe or not, that doesn’t leave you on the hook if something happens to one of the sites.

I hope that the fine folks at Spanking Couple can resolve their issues soon, and be back in business.

Nonetheless, I went to ccbill and manually cancelled my subscription just to avoid an accidental rebill.

I wish all the best for Veronica and Dr. D.

While I do not know Veronica personally, I kind of feel like I do know her via my correspondence with Veronica, and writing about her sites and blogs and such.

Was kind of scary when I got that email about her site and blog being closed down. Is she OK? What’s going on?

Well, I’m a big fan! She has such a great sense of humor and is a terrific person and is so gracious always.

To know her is to love her!–the challenges and battles they face, I know they will rise above it and get thru it.

Dave

As realspankings.com and its sister sites are intertwined with Veronica and Dr. D, this is an even more serious incident for the community.

@Anonymous: Punished Brats shot a few scenes with her as well.

I am a little surprised by the response to this situation. I read Veronica’s explanation of the situation on the spanking forum listed and have to say that while I agree spanking should not be considered a disgusting act when it is between two consenting adults, I have to say that I understand the father’s side of things, as well. The Spanking Couple sites feature spanking, but they also feature explicit sex scenes. It is not like they are just two regular people exploring their sexual interests in the privacy of their own home. They are doing this for money and putting themselves out there for all to see. The child in question has two parents–both of which apparently care for her well-being. I would feel similar to the father in this situation. If I found out that my ex were doing this type of thing, then I would wonder about the general well-being of the child in her custody. While it was pretty low of someone to contact Veronica’s ex-husband, I have to wonder how someone could know the details of her life that intimately. Maybe someone who knows them both came across The Spanking Couple’s website or something like that. What if it had been her daughter who ended up finding a picture of her mother online, or a classmate, or a classmate’s parent? As a parent, there is a certain responsiblity you have to your children that probably does not mesh well with professional pornography or professional spanking movies. Perhaps the ex-husband is blowing this out of proportion, but I would feel the same way if I were in his position. I do not see how it is possible to look at this from one person’s perspective only. I have a spanking fetish, but I would not let the business side of spanking interfere with other aspects of my life. If I did make spanking videos, I could not in good conscience do that with children in my life. If I were young and single it might be a different story but with children around? Try to see it from another side. I am sure the ex-husband is offended by the idea that his ex-wife might be putting their child in danger or at risk (whether this is warranted or not).

My husband and I were talking about this yesterday…and I kind of agree with the last Anonymous–it’s not like were talking about spanking or sex being bad. I doubt that the ex would have a big problem with sex or spanking in a private situation…maybe it’s the fact that it’s a business showing sex and spanking online for pretty much everyone to see. I also agree that I wouldn’t want someone I shared a child with to be doing porn–spanking or otherwise–especially if he had any sort of custody. Might be an old bias, but I don’t think it’s an unreasonable one. I still think it’s shitty that someone “dropped the dime” on TSC by telling her ex at all. If he’d found out on his own, that’s one thing…but having someone tattle is just crap!

I don’t want this to get into what is and is not proper in child rearing.

Honestly while I can see the the fellow’s point I don’t necessarily think her business is incompatible with veronica’s ability to raise a child.

What is worse might I ask. People who run spanking sites raising children or The executive that knowingly imports deadly toys from China.

Unfortunately the US has cornered the market on “Christian values” and prudery. Somehow showing off your kink has become more shameful then killing people.

But how do those two things go together? The complaint seems to be that the ex-husband has no right to be upset. Of course he does. I think most people would be. And the issue IS with child rearing. That’s sort of the point. There are two people who have a child together. One runs a spanking & sex site. That’s the issue in question. Not toy makers from China or your perception of prudery and Christian values. I know you’d like to blame everything on Christians, but that doesn’t even factor in here. Most people wouldn’t want children in the custody of a porn star. That’s pretty much a simple value judgement–and doesn’t just stem from Christianity. But, if that makes me a prude, that’s probably because I am one. I don’t hide my spanking interest from anyone, but neither would I have a spanking site showing myself in an explicit sexual nature if there were children in my home. That’s a personal choice more than anything. To each their own on this one, but “anons” comment seemed more like a common sense statement than anything else. And, showing off your kink has always been judged by non-kinks. Just like you judge Christians by your own perceptions, vanillas view our lifestyle as something strange. Because it IS something strange to them.

By the same token, I think there are certain sexual interests or fetishes that most of us would agree are a sick, twisted, or just plain wrong. Serial rape, for instance…child molestation… stalking/hunting women. Much of this sort of thing is rooted in someone’s sexuality. But, that doesn’t mean spankos should be giving it two thumbs up and saying “oh, it’s just a kink…it’s harmless.” There would be very few judges or juries out there that would take kindly to those things. In the case of a child custody suit (which could eventually follow for TSC), the evidence that Veronica was running a spanking-porn site while she had custody of their child would more than likely come to light. So, yes…it has a lot to do with the situation. I think she was probably pretty wise to take down her sites–much to the dismay of many in the community. It sucks that this is happening to her and to TSC, but she does have to put the needs of her family before anything else–which is what she is doing. Kudos to her for that.

I don’t think anyone would question TSC’s decision to shut down their site in the face of a possible custody hearing. Nor would I expect anyone would think that the avoidance of such a hearing is not in the best interest of a child.

The point of the matter is does starring in adult films (or anything in the adult world) preclude one from being a good parent or in fact if handled properly would affect a child’s upbringing.

Unfortunately the courts are overeager to return children to addicts all to readily but as soon as they see a women performing in the adult industry they simply assume that this must be a “bad Parent” which is simply untrue

As for your statement about “sick” kink’s as far as I am concerned if its consensual, and you enjoy it then we have no right judging the “sickness” of the kink.

Plus who is to make the determination of what is “sick” or not. If you ask the fundies all porn is sick and should be illegal as opposed to the European’s who have a way more tolerant view on these things.

Can I blame the father for being upset. Absolutely not, but not from what she was doing but from the fact he didn’t know about it. (He has a right to make decisions about the child is and isn’t exposed to as well).

I am not particularly Anti-Christian any more so then any other kind of religious organization. And its not necessarily what or how you believe. I’ll support your right to do that any way I can. I’ll even support your right to holler it in the public square. But when your church tries to force me to abide by your values and tries to infiltrate our education system with nonsense thats where my tolerance stops.

Reading again the February interview with Veronica and Dr. D, Veronica’s following statement sounds as if she gave herself an advice:

Question: “Can you give any advice to any women thinking about getting into the industry?”

Veronica: “Make sure you are prepared for being VERY visible and vulnerable! Being on camera is very different from spanking privately. Think about the future implications and make sure you are truly OK with them.”

Yes, Madam.

I’d just like to add my voice to those messages of goodwill to Veronica at this difficult time. Her work with Dr. D. captures everything good about consensual spanking: beauty, intelligence, compassion, humour and eroticism. My best wishes to you both, I hope things work out for you.

“Apparently due to personal reasons The Spanking Couple is suspended… I would like to see them refund at least the last 15 days worth of membership but I have no indication if they will do that or not.”

It would be interresting to know, if “The Spanking Couple” offered a refund to their customers or they kept the money.

FWIW, “Mr. Daniels” and “Mrs. Elisabeth Burns” have been seen on AEG/RS sites recently. “Veronica Daniels” also on Clare Fonda’s and Chelsea Pfeiffer’s sites.